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Tara:)

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Hi Tara, I was not able to see anything but a face...and I believe it's the child's mother. I also believe that she is either in custody now, or will be very soon.

I do not know any details of what has happened, other than drug abuse might be related to this case. It could be that I did not want to see what happened, or I was just not able to anything about it.

I will try again, but hopefully police will find the truth very soon.

Brian

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/02/body.found/index.html

Hi, this is very sad.

Is this related to something on my site, or did you want my help in finding
out who did this?

Brian

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Hi
This happened in TX however Madeleine crossed my mind as I have followed her case since May.
Just wondered if you felt anything from this or if it was any help to you on one of your missing people.
Thanks and Have a Great Day! Lisa

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Hi Lisa, it maybe related to a past DD, but I do not think it's about any open case.

I have done a RV on it, case #493.

Brian

RV 493 Baby Grace, child found in Texas (11.3.2007)

"Childs mother, S, police know who she is -- round face - meth user - dark circles on/under eyes"

11.8.2007

Hi Brian,

I read your RV on Baby Grace, and found this eerily familiar. You
mentioned meth. Alot of people on Court TV message boards are
commenting that this missing girl Karissah Charlene Butler looks like
the sketch of Baby Grace. I did a search on the missingkids.com
website and Karissah is the one that popped out to me at first before
reading the boards and seeing any mention of the childs name, but they
say grace had blonde or light brown hair. I did a web search and
found this http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/butler_karissah.html
. The information on the page mentions her being taken away from her
mother for meth use and then the mother and father taking off with her
over a year ago. Could the "S" in your RV stand for KariSSa?

Thanks,

Amy

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Hi Amy, not sure but will open a public case on Karissah.

Brian

Karissah Charlene Butler

Above Images: Karissah, circa 2006

Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: September 29, 2006 from Santa Rosa Beach, Florida
Classification: Family Abduction
Date of Birth: August 25, 2004
Age: 2 years old
Height and Weight: 3'0, 28 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Brown hair, blue eyes. Karissah has a scar on her left cheek.

Details of Disappearance

Karissah was last seen in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida on September 29, 2006. She was abducted by her non-custodial mother, Trina Renee Butler. A photograph and vital statistics for Trina are posted below this case summary. A felony warrant was issued for her on October 22, 2006.
Karissah was under the supervision of Florida's Department of Children and Families (DCF) at the time of her abduction. She was placed in the care of her maternal grandparents after her parents were arrested on methamphetamine charges. Trina's two older sons, Karissah's half-brothers, were placed with their father. Trina took parenting classes and received drug counseling, and Karissah was placed back in her care after six months. The child remained an official ward of the DCF, however, and the drug case against Trina was still pending. Trina took Karissah and fled before the custody case and the criminal charges against her were concluded.
Karissah and Trina may be in the company of Karissah's father, Stephen Butler. A photograph of him is posted below this case summary. Trina's parents stated Stephen has a criminal record and got Trina involved with drugs, and that he had threatened her in the past. The Butler family may be in Rhode Island or Canada. The child's whereabouts are unknown and her case remains unsolved.

Above: Karissah's father, Stephen Butler

Trina Renee Butler

Above Images: Trina Renee Butler

Date of Birth: April 19, 1971
Age: 35 years old
Height and Weight: 5'5, 124 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Light brown hair, green eyes.

Investigating Agency
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Walton County Sheriff's Office
850-267-2000

11.9.2007

Hi Brian--

I just read an article on this woman, who was arrested for killing her son, another sad story. I am sending this on to you because she looks a lot like the woman you drew for Baby Grace's RV, and I wanted to make sure that the wires didn't get crossed on this one. I would't even think about it except for the fact that no one still knows who she is and the drawing and description are incredibly similar to this photo. Anyway, maybe a second RV will help, when you can??

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/general/2007/11/05/Boy.Smothered/?cvqh=itn_scmom

Thanks & Take Care,

Tara:)

ps--I know you are ridiculously swamped, but I want to find out if you have at least received my emails from this last week, or did they get deleted? I don't mind, but I will be sending them again if so;)

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Hi Tara,

I have looked at the article, wires get crossed all the time, but I do not feel that this is her. I'm working to see if I can get more on this...if I do, it will be posted ASAP.

Brian

Oh, if I did not reply to your other emails, most likely I did not read them...and I'm sorry, please send them again.

11.22.2007

Brian,

The police are checking as to wether baby grace is a little girl named RILEY SAWYERS..

FROM WHAT I READ PARENTS HAD SPLIT -MOTHER HAD MET NEW BOYFRIEND ON INTERNET GAME

-'WORLD OF WARCRAFT'??? HE CONVINCED HER TO MOVE TO TEXAS...

mother is claiming that a social worker from OHIO came and took 'Riley' away last summer- but there is 'no' agency in Ohio

that has any information on this child being removed from her mothers care!!??

Riley's biological father has submitted a DNA sample for testing to see if it his missing daughter'

more information posted below...

will keep you updated when I no the test results!..

Angie

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Hi Angie, the name Riley Sawyers does not right a bell. I'm unable to find her name as reported missing in the amber alert system, nor even a family setup missing person page.

This is very strange for a child of her age...unless someone really does not want her found. Can you locate a picture of the mother? It could be very possible that Kimberly murdered her daughter and baby grace is Riley Sawyers...it would explain the reason for for the delay in identifying the body, since from what I know she is not in the system as missing.

I just need a picture of Kimberly.

Brian

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Kimberly had apparently met a new lover on the internet as she played the game, "World of Warcraft". Royce Zigler convinced Kim to move to Texas with her child.

A few months later, Kimberly Zigler told family members that a social worker from Ohio had taken Riley away from her last summer. However, no agency in Ohio has any information on removing any child from Texas.

Riley's grandmother doesn't buy Kim's story.

"To hand your child over and not call police and not file a missing person's report," said Sawyers. "It doesn't make sense."

Ray Sawyers, Riley's grandfather added, "That tells me something's fishy and something's suspicious. Very!"

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11.23.2007

Hey Brian, No, Riley wasn't reported missing!!!!!

Her so called mother reckons she was taken by social services!! There is no record of that ever happening,

So either the mother is LYING and child has been killed at home...

Or the mother was stupid enough to hand her over to a 'COMPLETE STRANGER!!'

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME AS THE MOTHER NEVER CALLED RILEY'S FATHER TO ASK TO TALK TO HER DAUGHTER, AND SHE ALSO JUST HANDED HER OVER TO SOCIAL SERVICES WITHOUT A FUSS!!

Riley's father and grandparents are not buying the story...

I can't find a photo of the mother 'Kimberley Zigler'..for you.. but will possibly beable to in the next few weeks when the DNA tests come back!! That is if the tests are conclusive...

But 'YES' RILEY IS MISSING'.????????? WITH NO MISSING CHILD'S REPORT EVER BEING FILED...

I WILL KEEP MY EYE ON THIS AND LET YOU NO IF IT IS RILEY..

ANGIE

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Hi, thanks and please do...Brian

Hi,

The police think it is Riley Sawyers, but are waiting for DNA.
You asked for a picture of the mother. She is not Ziegler, that is her new boyfriend from the internet. Her name is Kimberly Dawn Trenor. Pic attatched.

/Annika

People and places involved:
Riley Ann Sawyers
of Spring, 75 miles north of Galveston

The girl's mother, Kimberly Dawn Trenor, 19
Royce Clyde Zeigler II, 24, new boyfriend from internet

(Trenor and Zeigler were arrested early Saturday and charged with injury to a child and tampering with evidence)

Riley's father lives in Ohio, Robert Sawyers, 20, has said he hopes his daughter is not Baby Grace

Riley's paternal grandmother, Sheryl Sawyers

The girl's grandfather, Ray Sawyers

Thanks for the picture.

Brian

This could be here, just need to find out if she has been in jail before and has a meth habbit.

Brian

Hi Brian,

Just thought you would like to see this. An arrest has been made in the baby Grace case, it is in fact the body of baby Riley from Spring, Texas. This is about 20 minutes from where I live so I felt compelled to tell you that you were right on, sadly. Thanks for all you do.

Rachel

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/couple-arrested-after-police-id-dead/20071125204509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

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Hi Rachel, thanks for sending me this link, will post it.

Brian

RE: 493

Again you prove to be true, you are very gifted despite what you personally think.

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